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Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 10:27 am    Post 1 of 45

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In honor of the release of Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the crystal skull, Reelvision and Timeless Entertainment present a special 10 minute preview of Treasure of the Templars. The final release of the film is almost less than a month away. Visit www.treasureofthetemplars.com for more information. Be sure to visit the forum as well, and ask questions if you have any. We will be happy to respond.

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Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 11:42 am    Post 2 of 45

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The 1st release image of the final poster. Sill needs some tweaking.
This 12 minute preview is also not the final cut. Just a preview of what is to come.
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Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 12:09 pm    Post 3 of 45

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Awesome stuff! Your team has captured the Indy/adventure vibe almost spot-on. My favourite bit has to be the "I don't hit girls" "I'm not a girl, I'm a woman" *THWAMMO* bit.

My only real bit of advice would be on the visuals, specifically the grading. The opening night-time scene was great, but the daytime stuff had a slightly 'raw' look, as if it was straight from the camera. A richer palette would help to give it that sweaty, burnished Indy look.

Great stuff, though I would say be careful about using the actual Indy theme towards the end, as I wouldn't want you guys to get into any legal tangles!
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This is fantastic! Wardrobe, props, locale, actors etc. all grab the feel of the series. I am really looking forward to this!

There's that one guy that looks like he was in Spies Like Us (the silver/white haired guy).
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Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 6:22 pm    Post 5 of 45

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Tarn wrote:
Awesome stuff! Your team has captured the Indy/adventure vibe almost spot-on. My favourite bit has to be the "I don't hit girls" "I'm not a girl, I'm a woman" *THWAMMO* bit.

My only real bit of advice would be on the visuals, specifically the grading. The opening night-time scene was great, but the daytime stuff had a slightly 'raw' look, as if it was straight from the camera. A richer palette would help to give it that sweaty, burnished Indy look.

Great stuff, though I would say be careful about using the actual Indy theme towards the end, as I wouldn't want you guys to get into any legal tangles!


Thanks!
I'm sure everyone will appreciate the input given so far.
The day sequence was shot on a canon XL-1s, I'm pretty sure. The rest of the movie was shot on a Canon XL-2. If it gives you any idea how long this has taken, that scene was shot in 2004.

Here's a short behind the scenes clip which shows some of
the compositing work on the opening sequence.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wku8vctBtFA

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Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 7:07 am    Post 6 of 45

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Not trying to be rude, but isn't this almost exact same thing already submitted to the cinema under your username like 2 years ago? I know you've said it's been in postproduction, but why put the same thing you already have up in the cinema on a separate, new page? (other than the obvious reason to please people and gain more attention )

Also, WhiteShark.......er.....Ouellette, what role did you have in this movie? I've always wondered that, since by your profile info you'd be about 12 during the making of this movie. And while I'm questioning things, I think it's humorous how the 'A _______ ______ Film' name of the person changes from the last thing you uploaded of Templars on here to this one.
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One thing I would say is that the opening burial scene is a little odd. If they're trying to bury him (in other words, kill him), why do they leave him alive? Especially when he then escapes from the shallow grave so easily. If they're killers, surely they'd hit him with a spade to make sure? Or at least keep an eye on the grave to make sure he doesn't pop out.

What might have worked better is if the audience saw that Indy was still alive and breathing, but the bad guys didn't. So we then know that Indy is just biding his time, and it makes sense that the bad guys all wander off.
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Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 2:33 pm    Post 8 of 45

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this was simply incredible:) it could be a real pro movie... im loking foward to see the rest
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Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 4:44 pm    Post 9 of 45

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Atom wrote:
Not trying to be rude, but isn't this almost exact same thing already submitted to the cinema under your username like 2 years ago? I know you've said it's been in postproduction, but why put the same thing you already have up in the cinema on a separate, new page? (other than the obvious reason to please people and gain more attention )

Also, WhiteShark.......er.....Ouellette, what role did you have in this movie? I've always wondered that, since by your profile info you'd be about 12 during the making of this movie. And while I'm questioning things, I think it's humorous how the 'A _______ ______ Film' name of the person changes from the last thing you uploaded of Templars on here to this one.


Yeah.
That’s right. I was 13 when I asked if I could help out with this movie. Its not a secret or anything, I've posted this time and time again, I help with distribution of the film, and publicity. I also do file management for the website, for the video files, and some graphic design for the backgrounds. I also built a custom stunt whip for the movie to be used in swinging stunts. The reason my name changed so many times was because I was trying to use a name that was not used by anyone else. I was not trying to be sneaky or anything. Just got fed up with the "studio" names I was choosing getting copyrighted, so I used my last name instead.

There is a major difference between what was up before, and this clip, not just length wise, but the editing is also a lot more refined. The main reason this was released was to coincide with the premiere of Indy 4, and this was posted on a few different Indiana Jones fan websites, that was the main purpose. The original goal was to release it on the 22nd but that ended up not being possible. Just figured people on here would like to see how the final film will actually look.

I'm not trying to be sneaky Atom. I'm just OBSESSED with the old Indiana Jones films, and this is a project that I really wanted to be a part of, but as you stated, because of my age it was impossible to be on set. I'm posting it here on behalf of the production crew. I talk with the producer and director on a pretty regular basis, setting up screenings etc. I am not just posting other peoples work, if that’s what you were thinking.

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Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 5:27 pm    Post 10 of 45

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I dunno how people get us so confused. We have different names and avatars. Is it a word-association thing, or what?

EDIT: I'm changing my signature. Maybe that'll help things.
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Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 5:47 pm    Post 11 of 45

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If I'm not mistaken,
that IS your face in Atoms avatar.
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Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 10:38 pm    Post 12 of 45

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Hey bro that was really cool, could u tell me where u got the intro font?
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I agree with Tarn on the grading. This was fantastic though, can't wait. I've been aware of this since you posted the first bit about it and have been looking forward to it, but pessimistic it would ever be released (most fanfilms aren't). Touch up the grading, it really does look like raw footage. It was very well-shot, great camera work, so much potential for post-color work. But it's really contrasted to the brilliantly colored night shots, you nailed those.

I LOVE the use of shadow in the fight scene, classic Indiana Jones stuff. You really captured this well. I'm actually extremely excited for this. Though once you are done, I encourage you to make another film with your own story and characters. I love quality fanfilms, but I always hope the production of them teach the filmmakers and encourage them to create their own stuff. You/your director is clearly talented, and I really liked the way this was written. You seem to be avoiding copyright infringement, which is great, but I don't know how much of the score is original. If it is all original, good; if not, I hope you find a composer. I'd love to buy a DVD of this with features and stuff. If you can't sell a DVD, I beg you to do what the Revelations crew did and release the DVD ISO and images for disc and insert online, so we can download them and print our own DVD. I love having stuff like this in my collection. Not sure if it was the flash/compression, but there seemed to be some glitches in the video, one even looked like a flaw in the editing (near the beginning after the night scene, seemed to jump awkwardly for a cut, could have been a bad cut; also could have been a compression glitch).

The burying scene isn't farfetched for an Indiana Jones film, it actually kind of works in the campy bad guys who refuse to just shoot the hero in the head (Raiders, when they just left Indy in the tomb, when he would've been an easy, unarmed target). I would support a re-shoot of that with Tarn's suggestion, but I think it still works in an Indiana Jones film. The casting in this was great as well. Indiana Jones looks like a young hero type, which really works here; the bad guys look sinister, costumes and all. Though the cut to the girl with the gun was extremely out of place, that should really be on the cutting room floor, extremely awkward. The following scene with her was great though.

+1 on the making of bit too. This just makes me so happy. I hope you get some publicity for this too. 5/5 hoping this is the last thing you put in the cinema, and the next thing you do is a DVD (maybe another trailer, but I never give trailers above a 4 unless it's the only material in the cinema for the actual film). I loved Crystal Skull, but it's undeniably a very different feel, probably intentionally. But this film had the classic feel of the original Lucas/Speilberg films.

Quick question: did you use a 35mm adapter, or was that DOF the XL1/2's sexiness?
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Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 2:04 am    Post 14 of 45

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Tarn wrote:
One thing I would say is that the opening burial scene is a little odd. If they're trying to bury him (in other words, kill him), why do they leave him alive? Especially when he then escapes from the shallow grave so easily. If they're killers, surely they'd hit him with a spade to make sure? Or at least keep an eye on the grave to make sure he doesn't pop out.


Yeah, I agree with Tarn here. I liked the original beginning from a year or two back. It wasn't as extravagant, but simply opening on the mountain shot with a hand all-of-a-sudden breaking through the ground with the titles to me looked better, worked better, and was more 'Indy'.

I know it would be scrapping a lot of intense work for the beginning, but I was able to follow the fact that the people in the tent were the people who buried Indy without seeing them in the beginning, and I liked the fading through walking in the desert more.

I dunno, it's subtler and maybe it's just me, but that's my main complaint. Also, Serpent- what depth are you talking about? While this is beautifully orchestrated, edited, directed, and shot- the high quality looks very 'Dr. No'/flat-90s-TV-look to me. Which is unfortunate, because to me it reminds me more of the Young Indiana Jones series more than the filmic look of the movie. Which makes me speculate that this was shot 60i and not 24p, correct?

Either way, this all is generally very good stuff. And, altogether, I'd even say to me this feels more like Indy than Indy 4 itself did. And that's not something I'd throw around lightly.
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Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 2:51 am    Post 15 of 45

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Atom wrote:
Also, Serpent- what depth are you talking about?


Er, Dr. No was shot on film and in the 60's. Did you mean Dr. Who? Anywho, I just noticed some depth when he found the artifact in the tent that had some good depth. I guess I wasn't paying attention to the wider shots throughout the rest, and looking back on it the DOF was normally shallow. However this still had a good cinematic feel for being shot on video. I still hope you touch up the color grading.

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